Comments on: unCommon Sense: to TeaBag, or not to TeaBag http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/ "Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day. For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead..." - Thomas Jefferson Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:41:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Justus http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-9862 Justus Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:50:23 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-9862 So true. Honesty and evryehting recognized. So true. Honesty and evryehting recognized.

]]> By: Wesley Lemley http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-4419 Wesley Lemley Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:42:57 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-4419 :~` I am really thankful to this topic because it really gives useful information ;., :~` I am really thankful to this topic because it really gives useful information ;.,

]]> By: Liberals vs Conservatives vs Common Sense: Most Offensive Protesters | The Common Sense Republic http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Liberals vs Conservatives vs Common Sense: Most Offensive Protesters | The Common Sense Republic Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:46:23 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-31 [...] the aftermath of the tea parties, I posted a few thoughts on the CNN reporter fiasco.  I obviously felt she was very biased, but I also had a few choice [...] [...] the aftermath of the tea parties, I posted a few thoughts on the CNN reporter fiasco.  I obviously felt she was very biased, but I also had a few choice [...]

]]> By: nate V http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-24 nate V Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:00:26 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-24 I would love to know what definition you are referring to. Websters dictionary defines fascism as : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Regardless of whether you feel that Obama is moving in the general direction of fascism through bigger government, that alone does not automatically qualify him as fascist. One of the key components of fascism is a state headed by a dictatorial leader, and Obama has only just been elected by popular vote less than 12 months ago, and has shown no signs of forcible suppression to opponents. Furthermore, I know of no statements or stances by Obama that would indicate he plans to take America towards a dictatorship, and certainly nothing that would indicate he plans to follow in the steps of Hitler (the poster was directly comparing Obama to Hitler) Let me add that I would be happy to recant this position if shown proof to the contrary. I further believe that if anyone stands up in public and calls an elected official(or anyone for that matter) a fascist, it is a serious accusation and an attack on the target's character and reputation. The accuser should have a VERY good explanation, and be able to articulate it accordingly. I didn't like it when they called Bush a fascist and compared him to Hitler, and I don't like it with Obama now. The point I am making is that the anyone who literally compares any democratically elected President to a mass murdering fascist dictator will not be able to articulate a logical comparison, because there is no comparison. Im not saying the guy is a bad guy, he was probably just misguided... but either way he suffered from some serious CSL (Common Sense Loss), and he wasn't about to talk his way out of it, even if we gave him 3 weeks to construct a thesis. I would love to know what definition you are referring to. Websters dictionary defines fascism as :

a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Regardless of whether you feel that Obama is moving in the general direction of fascism through bigger government, that alone does not automatically qualify him as fascist. One of the key components of fascism is a state headed by a dictatorial leader, and Obama has only just been elected by popular vote less than 12 months ago, and has shown no signs of forcible suppression to opponents. Furthermore, I know of no statements or stances by Obama that would indicate he plans to take America towards a dictatorship, and certainly nothing that would indicate he plans to follow in the steps of Hitler (the poster was directly comparing Obama to Hitler)

Let me add that I would be happy to recant this position if shown proof to the contrary.

I further believe that if anyone stands up in public and calls an elected official(or anyone for that matter) a fascist, it is a serious accusation and an attack on the target’s character and reputation. The accuser should have a VERY good explanation, and be able to articulate it accordingly.

I didn’t like it when they called Bush a fascist and compared him to Hitler, and I don’t like it with Obama now.

The point I am making is that the anyone who literally compares any democratically elected President to a mass murdering fascist dictator will not be able to articulate a logical comparison, because there is no comparison.

Im not saying the guy is a bad guy, he was probably just misguided… but either way he suffered from some serious CSL (Common Sense Loss), and he wasn’t about to talk his way out of it, even if we gave him 3 weeks to construct a thesis.

]]> By: Momma http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Momma Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:24:43 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-22 You know, the guy calling Obama a fascist was hardly a dimwit. Ordinary citizens don't rehearse their responses to all manner of political discourse, so when this guy got put on the spot, it's understandable that he may not have had the best answer. Perhaps, with greater composure and more rehearsal, he could have expounded on Obama's efforts to consolidate and enhance Federal powers far beyond the scope of the Constitution, to use the Department of Homeland Security to paint conservative dissenters as potential terrorists, to nationalize banks and the auto industry. That protester's lack of eloquence hardly undermines the truth of his point; by any rational definition of fascism, Obama's administration is indeed fascist. You know, the guy calling Obama a fascist was hardly a dimwit. Ordinary citizens don’t rehearse their responses to all manner of political discourse, so when this guy got put on the spot, it’s understandable that he may not have had the best answer. Perhaps, with greater composure and more rehearsal, he could have expounded on Obama’s efforts to consolidate and enhance Federal powers far beyond the scope of the Constitution, to use the Department of Homeland Security to paint conservative dissenters as potential terrorists, to nationalize banks and the auto industry. That protester’s lack of eloquence hardly undermines the truth of his point; by any rational definition of fascism, Obama’s administration is indeed fascist.

]]> By: nate V http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-16 nate V Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:50:13 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-16 I agree, from everything I have read, it did seem to be a pretty good mix, which would indicate some level of concern that crosses party lines. I agree, from everything I have read, it did seem to be a pretty good mix, which would indicate some level of concern that crosses party lines.

]]> By: Jim Fister http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Jim Fister Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:19:35 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-15 I commented on it yesterday, and I've seen a few others hit the same point. The center-left and left approach to Tea Party Day was that it was some corporate-sponsored, Fox-News-driven conspiracy. This puzzles me. If (and in the past when) there's a grass-roots movement (say) agianst the war that's highlighted by liberal blogs, then it's considered excellent use of the tools at hand. Being dismissive of an entire movement is always a bad idea, no matter how much one wing-nut riles you up. By the way, as an attendee, I saw this a right-originated, but it was a pretty broad mix who showed. I commented on it yesterday, and I’ve seen a few others hit the same point. The center-left and left approach to Tea Party Day was that it was some corporate-sponsored, Fox-News-driven conspiracy. This puzzles me. If (and in the past when) there’s a grass-roots movement (say) agianst the war that’s highlighted by liberal blogs, then it’s considered excellent use of the tools at hand.

Being dismissive of an entire movement is always a bad idea, no matter how much one wing-nut riles you up.

By the way, as an attendee, I saw this a right-originated, but it was a pretty broad mix who showed.

]]> By: Lynn Comp http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Lynn Comp Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:00:48 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-14 THANK YOU. How can a dialog of different viewpoints degenerate into 'whoever disagrees with me is stupid" (liberal) or "whoever disagrees with me is fascist" (far right). Can anyone with a rational viewpoint be heard over the din of stupidity? Why are we devolving into junior high stereotypes everytime someone asks a hard, "bi-partisan" question? Where's my "Bang Head here:____" sign when I need it? THANK YOU. How can a dialog of different viewpoints degenerate into ‘whoever disagrees with me is stupid” (liberal) or “whoever disagrees with me is fascist” (far right). Can anyone with a rational viewpoint be heard over the din of stupidity? Why are we devolving into junior high stereotypes everytime someone asks a hard, “bi-partisan” question? Where’s my “Bang Head here:____” sign when I need it?

]]> By: nate V http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/16/uncommon-sense-to-teabag-or-not-to-teabag/comment-page-1/#comment-13 nate V Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:11:07 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=75#comment-13 Here is a link to the Newsbuster's post back in 2006, where the very same reporter joked that a protester wearing a bush/hitler/devil mask was a "lookalike". http://newsbusters.org/node/3586 Come on CNN, I hate to rage against the machine here, but reporters are supposed to be un-biased. Here is a link to the Newsbuster’s post back in 2006, where the very same reporter joked that a protester wearing a bush/hitler/devil mask was a “lookalike”.

http://newsbusters.org/node/3586

Come on CNN, I hate to rage against the machine here, but reporters are supposed to be un-biased.

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