Comments on: Extreme Common Sense Loss: Gov Rick Perry and Secession Talk http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/ "Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day. For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead..." - Thomas Jefferson Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:36:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Liberals vs Conservatives vs Common Sense: Most Offensive Protesters | The Common Sense Republic http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Liberals vs Conservatives vs Common Sense: Most Offensive Protesters | The Common Sense Republic Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:37 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=138#comment-32 [...] The bottom line is that there are a lot of different ideas out there; a lot of people who are just misguided and a lot of people who just plain have no sense. It is always fun to laugh at some of the craziest signage on both sides of the coin, while wondering how they could stand out in public making some of these statements.  Even though they are a riot (yes, it is.), these extremists do offend a lot of people and give other supporters a bad rap.  It’s just not going to get better as long as people only get offended by the extremists on the “other side”, because both conservatives and liberals have crazy people on each outside edge that are, quite frankly, embarrassing to everyone. (State of Texas included.) [...] [...] The bottom line is that there are a lot of different ideas out there; a lot of people who are just misguided and a lot of people who just plain have no sense. It is always fun to laugh at some of the craziest signage on both sides of the coin, while wondering how they could stand out in public making some of these statements.  Even though they are a riot (yes, it is.), these extremists do offend a lot of people and give other supporters a bad rap.  It’s just not going to get better as long as people only get offended by the extremists on the “other side”, because both conservatives and liberals have crazy people on each outside edge that are, quite frankly, embarrassing to everyone. (State of Texas included.) [...]

]]> By: nate V http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-25 nate V Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:13:08 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=138#comment-25 I like where you are going with the idea of dissent building a nation, rather than destroying it. I am going to think about that that week... We can definitely work it our internally. I like where you are going with the idea of dissent building a nation, rather than destroying it. I am going to think about that that week…

We can definitely work it our internally.

]]> By: Jim Fister http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Jim Fister Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:01:59 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=138#comment-23 The fact that a few hundred thousand people could gather and protest in a peaceable fashion, and then be ridiculed by some number of the other faction, is proof that we live in a great country. Even as a guy who thinks that most Republicans are centrist wusses, I'd hate to see a uniformity of opinion rule. Dissent builds the nation, not destroys it. We talk about succession, but we forget that the last time we did that, it killed more Americans than nearly any other decision in the country's history. I think we work it out internally, rather than act like Texans. The fact that a few hundred thousand people could gather and protest in a peaceable fashion, and then be ridiculed by some number of the other faction, is proof that we live in a great country. Even as a guy who thinks that most Republicans are centrist wusses, I’d hate to see a uniformity of opinion rule. Dissent builds the nation, not destroys it.

We talk about succession, but we forget that the last time we did that, it killed more Americans than nearly any other decision in the country’s history. I think we work it out internally, rather than act like Texans.

]]> By: nate V http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-20 nate V Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:19:51 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=138#comment-20 I can see your point. but if by rest of the nation, you mean the majority - then the power is still in our hands. The "nation" has the power, as long as our country remains a democracy, to make changes through the will of the people via free elections. The only instance I would see talk of secession become remotely viable is with an overthrown government like a dictatorship, were the people no longer have their liberty or votes. Threatening secession before that point is going against the idea of a democracy. If a small group disagrees with a big group you feel they have the right to just annex parts of the country all willy-nilly? We live in the United States of America, the greatest democracy (in terms of diversity, longevity, and accomplishment) in the history of the world. And that is just not something that should be dissolved lightly. Bottom line, if you just cannot agree with the direction of the majority, or see no hope that the majority can be persuaded away from the "cliff", you can always move to Canada. As long as we have a true democracy I think we will be fine. I can see your point. but if by rest of the nation, you mean the majority - then the power is still in our hands. The “nation” has the power, as long as our country remains a democracy, to make changes through the will of the people via free elections. The only instance I would see talk of secession become remotely viable is with an overthrown government like a dictatorship, were the people no longer have their liberty or votes.

Threatening secession before that point is going against the idea of a democracy. If a small group disagrees with a big group you feel they have the right to just annex parts of the country all willy-nilly? We live in the United States of America, the greatest democracy (in terms of diversity, longevity, and accomplishment) in the history of the world. And that is just not something that should be dissolved lightly.

Bottom line, if you just cannot agree with the direction of the majority, or see no hope that the majority can be persuaded away from the “cliff”, you can always move to Canada.

As long as we have a true democracy I think we will be fine.

]]> By: Darvin Dowdy http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Darvin Dowdy Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:22:50 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=138#comment-19 ...if the rest of the nation wants to go suicidal and run left off the edge of a socialistic/marxist cliff like a herd of demon possessed pigs, well it makes very good "common sense" indeed to not want to participate. Hats off to Rick Perry for taking a stance. Just hope he doesn't back down and start apologizing. DD …if the rest of the nation wants to go suicidal and run left off the edge of a socialistic/marxist cliff like a herd of demon possessed pigs, well it makes very good “common sense” indeed to not want to participate. Hats off to Rick Perry for taking a stance. Just hope he doesn’t back down and start apologizing. DD

]]> By: Mike Licht http://commonsenserepublic.com/2009/04/19/extreme-common-sense-loss-gov-rick-perry-and-secession-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Mike Licht Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:21:40 +0000 http://commonsenserepublic.com/?p=138#comment-18 If at First You Don’t Secede …. See http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/if-at-first-you-dont-secede/ If at First You Don’t Secede ….

See

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/if-at-first-you-dont-secede/

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